“So here comes the immune system. What are we doing for it? Well, it's inflammatory. It's over activated. And it's basically in hyperdrive. One of the 10 commandments of immunology is the immune system is antigen driven. It doesn't just turn on because it wants to turn on, it is turned on because something pushed the ‘on’ button.”

“When we talk about Long Covid on planet Earth, I think the lower estimates are about 60 million and the upper estimates are at 400 million globally. It's not a disease of the wealthy worried well in the UK or the US or whatever, it's a disease of six to 10% of everybody on planet earth has ever had COVID-19, no matter where they are. So if the stakes are that high, why on earth can't we regain some of that battle spirit and momentum? I think it does come into kind of policy and politics.”